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Messias - 30 Years Jubilee Tasting 18%

Our wine club The Wine Society 18% celebrates its 30th anniversary this year. In 1992 the Society was planned for by 6 persons, where of only Sten is still a member, but two more participated in our Jubilee Tasting. The actual start of the Wine Society was in 1993, a difficult year for Vintage Port, but the Wine Society still stands strong after all these years. Since many years also Jörgen and Stef-an are members. We have during these 30 years tasted quite a lot of vintage port. It has been alto-gether >800 different vintage ports ranging from 1862 to 2014. Unfortunately, we have only tasted 4 vintage ports from the 19th century.

The Wine Society 18% have 15 members and have 5 meetings/year, and some extra every now and then. Since we are only 15 members, we can have quite rare bottles as one bottle of each is enough.

The Wine Society 18% has had once a year a Great Tasting since 2005. It all started with a Great Tasting of the vintage 1963 with 39 houses. Since then we have had 21 Great Tastings spanning vintages between 1947 and 1992. We have only had 7 house tastings during these years so we decided to have a Messias/Quinta do Cachao Tasting as our 30 Year Jubilee Tasting.

Messias was established 1926 by Mr. Messias Baptista who got involved in the Port Wine business and production in 1934 but started shipping Vintage Port in 1950. He was chief for the house until 1973 and today, the descendants are in the board of directors. Until 2009 the label Quinta do Cachão (or only Cachão) was used on some markets for the exact same wine as Messias. 2009 was the first time two different Vintages were produced in the same year; both Messias and Quinta do Cachão.

The tasting was held on May 4 and we were 15 participants in the tasting, including 4 old members. The tasting was semi-blind i.e. we knew which wines participated in each Flight but not what we had in each glass. We had 2 Flights.

First flight:
Flight 1

Second flight:
Flight 2

Tasting notes. Note that the points are for the actual bottle tasted. Read about how we set point on the page "How to understand our points valuations"

Sort on: Vintage Sten's rank Jörgen's rank Stefan's rank Group's rank

HouseMessiasVintage1965
ColourYellow, mature in colour.
BouquetCacao, dark chocolate, ginger, roses, herbs and old grocery shop in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Balanced and very tasty with cacao, chocolate, ginger, roses and much more in the mouth with a lovely, quite long and quite attractive finish.
SAI point16.25JB point16.50SS point16.90Group point15.97
SAI rank2JB rank1SS rank1Group rank5
Comment
HouseMessiasVintage1997
ColourYellow mature in colour.
BouquetCacao, some chocolate, toffee, herbs, cream candy and old grocery shop
TasteLovely body. Mature and peaking but with some light tannins. Balanced and quite tasty with an elegant, rather long and quite attractive finish.
SAI point16.00JB point14.00SS point15.50Group point15.13
SAI rank4JB rank15SS rank11Group rank14
Comment
HouseMessiasVintage2003
ColourBlack in colour.
BouquetFruity and dark cherry in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Immature and lots of tannin. Good and quite easy to like. Not a long runner.
SAI point15.25JB point15.00SS point15.25Group point15.57
SAI rank13JB rank14SS rank13Group rank11
Comment
HouseMessiasVintage2005
ColourQuite dark with a yellow edge.
BouquetPharmacy, old hospital and some volatile acidity in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Quite unbalanced and alcoholic. Drinkable when we started but very soon the volatile acidity took over. The finish was quite short and not quite okay. Hard to give aggregable points. This bottle was defect even if it was agreeable in the beginning.
SAI point12.75JB point13.50SS point12.00Group point14.13
SAI rank17JB rank16SS rank16Group rank16
Comment
HouseMessiasVintage2007
ColourStill quite dark but yellow, mature in colour.
BouquetRipe plum, chocolate, cacao, herbs and spiciness in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and almost peaking but will improve due to some very elegant and round tannins. Balanced with chocolate, cacao, herbs and spiciness in taste. With an elegant, quite long and attractive finish. A lovely port indeed.
SAI point15.75JB point15.50SS point16.25Group point15.77
SAI rank9JB rank11SS rank6Group rank8
Comment
HouseMessiasVintage2011
ColourQuite yellow mature in colour.
BouquetRoasted coffee, cacao, some herbs, spiciness and old grocery shop in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Balanced and quite opened and mature but will probably be better. The finish is quite attractive and elegant and so is the port but in a quite modern style.
SAI point15.75JB point15.50SS point15.75Group point15.67
SAI rank9JB rank11SS rank10Group rank9
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1960
ColourMature, yellow in colour. Quite beautiful indeed.
BouquetToffee, chocolate, cacao herbs, raisin, coffee, spiciness and old grocery chop in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Balanced and very tasty toffee, cacao, chocolate raisin and lots of other, lovely things in the mouth. The finish is elegant. Quite attractive, quite long and lovely. Just drink this port and enjoy it now – it will not be better but is quite wonderful today.
SAI point16.25JB point16.50SS point16.25Group point16.27
SAI rank2JB rank1SS rank6Group rank2
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1963
ColourYellow, very mature in colour.
BouquetToffee, cream candy, herbs and zest of an orange in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Will not be better so drink it and enjoy it now. Balanced and tasty with toffee, candy, herbs and orange zest in the mouth. The finish is quite attractive, rather long but very elegant.
SAI point15.90JB point16.00SS point16.25Group point15.37
SAI rank5JB rank7SS rank6Group rank12
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1967
ColourLight yellow and mature in colour.
BouquetCacao, candy, some toffee, zest of an orange and some honey in the nose.
TasteHardly medium body. Mature and peaking. Will not be better so drink up. Balanced and tasty. Very easy to drink today and enjoy with an elegant but maybe rather short finish.
SAI point15.90JB point16.00SS point15.00Group point15.83
SAI rank5JB rank7SS rank14Group rank6
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1970
ColourBeautiful yellow mature colour.
BouquetCrème caramel, cacao, dark chocolate, toffee, coffee, tea, herbs and much more. Wonderful nose.
TasteFull bodied. Mature and peaking and is perfect today with lots of taste such as crème caramel, cacao, chocolate, coffee beans and much, much more. Balanced, elegant and very complex with a very long and lovely finish.
SAI point16.75JB point16.50SS point16.40Group point16.40
SAI rank1JB rank1SS rank5Group rank1
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1977
ColourVery beautiful almost tawny in colour.
BouquetUnfortunately unbalanced and quite a lot of volatile acidity and acetone. Not particularly enjoyable.
TasteLovely body but taste dominated of not quite balanced acidity but with a drinkable finish, maybe
SAI point14.00JB point13.50SS point11.00Group point14.10
SAI rank15JB rank16SS rank17Group rank17
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1979
ColourYellow mature in colour.
BouquetCacao, chocolate, herbs, citrus zest and old grocery shop in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Will not improve so drink and enjoy it now. Lovely cacao, chocolate and herbs in taste. Balanced and elegant port. A little honey in the finish, which is quite long, elegant and attractive.
SAI point15.40JB point16.00SS point16.50Group point15.83
SAI rank12JB rank7SS rank3Group rank6
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1982
ColourYellow very mature in colour.
BouquetCrème caramel, toffee, nutty, candy, some butterscotch and cacao in the nose but also some spiciness and nougat.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Balanced with toffee, cacao, candy, nuts and some spiciness in taste. Quite tasty and elegant with a lovely, now long and very attractive finish. Will probably not be better but is wonderful now!
SAI point15.75JB point16.50SS point16.50Group point16.20
SAI rank9JB rank1SS rank2Group rank4
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1983
ColourYellow, mature, very beautiful in colour.
BouquetCacao, chocolate, coffee, roses, raisin, herbs, candy and gingerbread in nose. Very generous bouquet indeed.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Will not be better but is wonderful today. Balanced and elegant. Herbs, coffee, ginger, crème caramel and cacao in taste. Dry but easy to drink and like. Very attractive with a lovely and quite long and very elegant finish. Just drink it and love it!
SAI point15.90JB point16.50SS point16.50Group point16.23
SAI rank5JB rank1SS rank3Group rank3
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1984
ColourStill quite dark but yellow mature in colour.
BouquetLiquorice, cream candy, cacao, roasted coffee, zest of oranges and cinnamon in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and on top. Taste of cream candy, roasted coffee, herbs and liquorice. Balanced and lovely and easy to drink with a quite complex, rather long and lovely finish.
SAI point15.90JB point16.00SS point15.90Group point15.63
SAI rank5JB rank7SS rank9Group rank10
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage1989
ColourYellow mature colour.
BouquetPharmacy, burned sugar and butterscotch in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking with a little unbalanced acidity but quite drinkable. Burned sugar in taste and an acceptable, light finish. Not quite convincing.
SAI point13.50JB point15.50SS point13.50Group point14.43
SAI rank16JB rank11SS rank15Group rank15
Comment
HouseQuinta do Cachao
Messias
Vintage2009
ColourQuite yellow and mature in colour.
BouquetFlowers, cream candy and some spiciness in the nose.
TasteQuite light in body. Mature and peaking but with some acidity which may do that it will improve. Balanced and quite tasty with an interesting, quite long and rather attractive finish.
SAI point15.25JB point16.50SS point15.50Group point15.37
SAI rank13JB rank1SS rank11Group rank12
Comment

Last tasted:

21st September
Pocas Jr 2001
19th September
Cockburn 1983
Delaforce 1992
Dow 2000
Fonseca 1994
Graham 2003
Quinta do Cachao
Messias 1983
Quinta do Pego 2000
Quinta do Vale Meao 2003
Rozes 1994
Taylor 1992

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