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Vintage 1984

One member of our Society wanted in 2014 to celebrate the vintage of 1984 but unfortunately we had no opportunity during this last year why the celebration was instead in February 2015.

This Vintage was an off vintage, and was judged by us as Good (see our Vintage Rating). Only 15 houses declared this vintage according to our knowledge. Michael Broadbent gave this vintage 2* out of 5*, and Suckling gave it 81 points out of 100 points. See more about the 1984 Vintage here.

The Wine Society 18% had a Semi-Great Tasting 19 February 2015 of the Vintage 1984. We call it Semi-Great because we had only 16 Vintages and not 20 Vintages which is our limit for calling it a Great Tasting.

We were 16 participants in the tasting. The tasting was totally blind i.e. just SAI knew what was in the glasses. See Our Points to translate it to 100 points scale. The vintage made some very attractive wines, but it is not surprising none of the major houses declared 1984. We think the wines are rather lean and one-dimensional, but some are very attractive and worth hunting and some will even develop a little more which surprise us.

The tasting was conducted over two flights.
First flight:
Flight 1

Second flight:
Flight 2

Tasting notes. Note that the points are for the actual bottle tasted. Read about how we set point on the page "How to understand our points valuations"

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HouseGuimaraens FonsecaVintage1984
ColourVery dark but yellow mature in colour.
BouquetLiquorice, crème caramel, toffee and cinnamon in the nose. Very generous indeed!
TasteFull-bodied. Mature and peaking. Elegant and tasty. Pepper, fudge, mint, liquorice, dark cherry and much more in taste. Balanced an complex port with a long, lovely and attractive finish. Wonderful port which shall be consumed now!
SAI point17.00JB point16.00SS point17.00Group point15.77
SAI rank1JB rank5SS rank1Group rank5
CommentJB had a split ranking
HouseQuinta da Foz CalemVintage1984
ColourStill rather dark blue in colour with a yellow rim.
BouquetViolet, dark berry, black cherry, cacao, roasted coffee and dark chocolate in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking but maybe still some very soft tannins. Delicate flavour with cacao, violet and much more. Balanced and complex port with a very long, attractive and delicious finish.
SAI point16.90JB point16.50SS point16.90Group point16.17
SAI rank2JB rank5SS rank2Group rank1
CommentJB had a split ranking
HouseQuinta de Cavadinha WarreVintage1984
ColourStill quite dark blue in colour but with a yellow rim.
BouquetComplex old grocery shop with coffee and cacao, fruit, dark berry, cinnamon, toffee and spiciness in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Sweet. Quite mature but still with some soft and delicate tannins. Elegant and balanced with herbs and fruit in taste. Excellent, long and very attractive finish.
SAI point15.90JB point16.90SS point16.75Group point15.60
SAI rank7JB rank2SS rank3Group rank8
Comment
HouseBurmesterVintage1984
ColourStill quite dark but mature yellow in colour.
BouquetToffee, fudge, crème caramel, toffee, liquorice and candy in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and very tasty with still some very soft tannins left. Cinnamon and liquorice in taste. Balanced and very elegant with a long and very attractive finish.
SAI point16.50JB point15.75SS point16.50Group point15.53
SAI rank3JB rank10SS rank4Group rank9
CommentSS had a split ranking
HouseQuinta do Bomfim DowVintage1984
ColourStill dark but quite yellow in colour.
BouquetDark cherry, herbs. Liquorice, cream candy and dried fruit in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature but still with some tannin. Probably near its peak. Liquorice, dark berry and herbs in taste. Elegant with a balanced and long, attractive and enjoyable finish.
SAI point16.25JB point16.25SS point16.50Group point15.63
SAI rank4JB rank3SS rank4Group rank7
CommentJB and SS had a split ranking
HouseQuinta da RomaneiraVintage1984
ColourStill rather dark but mature yellow in colour.
BouquetComplex and ethereal nose of dried fruit, ginger, pharmacy, hospital, sweet liquorice, candy, herbals and much more in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature, sweet and peaking. Elegant with dried fruit, sweet liquorice, herbals and much more in taste. Easy to drink and like with a quite long and attractive finish.
SAI point15.75JB point16.00SS point16.50Group point16.00
SAI rank8JB rank5SS rank4Group rank3
CommentSAI and SS had a split ranking
HouseQuinta de Vargellas TaylorVintage1984
ColourYellow mature in colour.
BouquetComplex crème caramel, some violet, blackberry, fruit, ginger and herbs in the nose.
TasteAlmost full-bodied. Mature and almost peaking but with some soft tannin left. Violet and herbs in flavour. Sweet. Balanced and complex. Attractive and quite long finish.
SAI point16.00JB point16.00SS point16.00Group point15.50
SAI rank5JB rank5SS rank7Group rank10
CommentSAI and JB had a split ranking
HouseBurton MessiasVintage1984
ColourStill rather dark but yellow mature in colour.
BouquetQuite shy in bouquet. Pharmacy, orange zest, raisin, and quite ethereal in the nose.
TasteHardly medium body. Mature and peaking. Easy to drink and like. Pharmacy in taste. Nice finish but quite short. No long-runner so drink up.
SAI point14.90JB point15.50SS point15.90Group point15.23
SAI rank14JB rank11SS rank8Group rank12
CommentSAI and JB had a split ranking
HouseQuinta do Cachão MessiasVintage1984
ColourPale but yellow mature in colour.
BouquetLiquorice, cream candy, zest of oranges and cinnamon in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and on top. Taste of cream candy and liquorice. Lovely and easy to drink with a nice finish. Quite attractive port.
SAI point15.40JB point15.50SS point15.50Group point15.27
SAI rank11JB rank11SS rank9Group rank11
CommentJB and SS had a split ranking
HouseQuinta do Noval NacionalVintage1984
ColourStill quite dark but mature yellow colour.
BouquetToffee, fudge, some oak, dark berry, black cherry, cream candy and some coffee and tea in the nose.
TasteQuite full- bodied. Mature and probably peaking even if some soft tannin can be revealed. Elegant and balanced with a nice, long, attractive finish but not up to Nacional normal standard.
SAI point16.00JB point17.00SS point15.50Group point16.03
SAI rank5JB rank1SS rank9Group rank2
CommentSAI and SS had a split ranking
HouseQuinta do Silval Quinta do NovalVintage1984
ColourYellow mature in colour.
BouquetHerbs, savory, cacao, coffee, zest of oranges and cream candy in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and peaking. Will not be better but easy to drink and like. Herbs in taste. Elegant and quite tasty with a nice and rather attractive finish.
SAI point15.25JB point15.40SS point15.50Group point15.00
SAI rank12JB rank14SS rank9Group rank14
CommentSAI, JB and SS had a split ranking
HouseReal Vinicola Real VelhaVintage1984
ColourStill rather dark but mature yellow in colour.
BouquetDates, prunes, figs, leather and cream candy in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature but with some unbalanced acidity – tannins? Rather tasty and elegant. Toffee in taste. Easy to drink and quite enjoyable with a nice and quiet long finish.
SAI point15.50JB point15.40SS point15.40Group point14.80
SAI rank10JB rank14SS rank12Group rank15
CommentJB had a split ranking
HouseQuinta do Panascal Fonseca GuimaraensVintage1984
ColourYellow mature in colour.
BouquetEthereal bouquet with pharmacy, hospital, candy, toffee and fudge in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Sweet, mature and peaking. Easy to drink and like. An enjoyable port with a quite complex finish.
SAI point15.25JB point16.00SS point15.25Group point15.97
SAI rank12JB rank5SS rank13Group rank4
CommentSAI, JB and SS had a split ranking
HouseRoyal Oporto Real VelhaVintage1984
ColourStill rather dark but yellow mature in colour.
BouquetWet wood, leather, cinnamon and dried dark berry in the nose.
TasteMedium nose. Mature with still some very soft tannin. Fudge in taste. Quite complex and balanced with a nice and rather long finish.
SAI point15.75JB point16.25SS point15.25Group point15.77
SAI rank8JB rank3SS rank13Group rank5
CommentSAI, JB and SS had a split ranking
HousePrime MessiasVintage1984
ColourPale yellow mature in colour.
BouquetGenerous bouquet of fudge, some spiciness, cinnamon, dark chocolate, coffee and toffee in the nose.
TasteHardly medium body. Mature and peaking and even a bit alcoholic in taste. Balanced and elegant. Easy to drink and like. Cinnamon and spiciness in taste. Not so long but quite nice and attractive finish.
SAI point14.90JB point15.25SS point15.00Group point15.13
SAI rank14JB rank16SS rank15Group rank13
CommentSAI had a split ranking
HouseHooperVintage1984
ColourMature yellow colour.
BouquetEthereal, clove, spicy, cacao and dried fruits and zest of oranges in the nose.
TasteMedium body. Mature and maybe even a little old. Will not improve but still balanced with a nice finish.
SAI point14.90JB point15.50SS point14.50Group point14.80
SAI rank14JB rank11SS rank16Group rank15
CommentSAI and JB had a split ranking

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